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"As long as human rights are violated, there can be no foundation for peace. How can peace grow where speaking the truth is itself a crime?"

US Remarks with the Press in Beijing

July 2, 2008

U.S. Secretary Condoleezza Rice
China World Hotel
Beijing, China
June 30, 2008


QUESTION: What about Tibet or larger human rights questions that
shortly after your press conference with the Chinese, announced that
the next round of talks with the Dalai Lama. I presume they said that
to you. You knew that was coming.

SECRETARY RICE: They did, yes.

QUESTION: Do you see things progressing positively there or is it still -

SECRETARY RICE: Well, the good news is there are talks. And - but
there - I hope that there will be some positive developments and some
momentum behind the talks. And I – you know, we're going to stay in
very close contact with the Chinese and also with the Dalai Lama's
representatives with whom we have good relations. This is the way to
deal with the issue because the Dalai Lama is a figure of
considerable moral authority. He is a figure who has rejected
violence. He is a figure who talks about the cultural and religious
and historical autonomy, not the – he doesn't push for political
independence. So we think he's a very positive figure in dealing with
this very difficult issue of Tibet. And we've made that case to the
Chinese, and we're going to continue to make the case. But I am
encouraged that at least there will be a second round of the talks.

QUESTION: The Chinese believe he's a separatist and you believe he's -

SECRETARY RICE: I - I just - I just don't see the evidence that he's
a separatist.

QUESTION: Do they use the same language with you as they did in --
for us, in saying his people have got to stop their terrorist acts
and try to sabotage the Beijing Olympics?

SECRETARY RICE: We're just pleased that they're going to have a second round.

QUESTION: Well -- but do they use that same kind of language?

SECRETARY RICE: Matt, I'm not going to talk about how we talk about
it, but it's a good thing that they're having the talks. We make our
case very strongly about the authenticity of the Dalai Lama, about
the authenticity of his claims, his statements that he is not seeking
political independence for Tibet and that they could make this very positive.

QUESTION: I'm just trying to get a sense of whether their rhetoric in
public is the same as it is in private.

SECRETARY RICE: I'm not going to talk about what they say in private.
We have good discussions about these things in ways that I think are
constructive. Let me put it that way, the discussions in private are

QUESTION: Okay. And then on the other -- on the other -- were there
larger human rights issues?

SECRETARY RICE: Yes. We talked -- I raised several people. But I --
you know, we'd like to, before we are out there about things, I would
like to see if we can get any movement on some of these. We also
talked about and agreed to continue to talk about the internet
freedom issue. I did raise it because I think that's one of the
brewing issues. The internet is becoming so ubiquitous. And we stand
really for internet freedom. We understand that it can't be
absolutely no-holds barred. We protect children and innocence as
well. But it shouldn't be something that is used to limit and
constrain political speech – and so we've been concerned about some
of the cases of bloggers.

QUESTION: What did -- what did they say about those cases? Did they --

SECRETARY RICE: Well, I think what you'll see is usually my -- the
meetings with the Foreign Minister are not that long.


SECRETARY RICE: And so generally what happens is that we will raise
an issue, and it probably now will be talked about among officials at
another level, and I think it would be a useful set of discussions
both in our regional discussions, maybe even in the strategic
dialogue, but certainly as a part of the human rights dialogue.

QUESTION: Was there any discussion of the people who were arrested
during the Tibet protests, and Human Rights Watch says there's still
like 1,000 of them in jail without charge.

SECRETARY RICE: We've talked about trying to deal with the
circumstances after the events in Tibet. But again, we've been
raising these issues (inaudible.)

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